AGOT 10 Jon II

“I prayed for it,” she said dully. “He was my special boy. I went to the sept and prayed seven times to the seven faces of god that Ned would change his mind and leave him here with me. Sometimes prayers are answered.”

This is really sad. She blames herself for Bran’s fall, and maybe she’s having difficulty keeping faith in the Seven too.

The idea that things come true in unexpected ways is one that runs through the dreams, prophecies and foreshadowings of the story. It’s cool to see it foregrounded like this once in a while. Maybe it further shows that Catelyn has a good sense of signs and the more mysterious workings of their world. But at the same time, this is the second instance of Catelyn’s interference with fate inadvertently getting her a negative version of what she asked for. The first one was when she convinced Ned to go south, in order to interfere with what she thought the dead direwolf portends.


In this chapter, I’m on the lookout for why Jon is angry, according to Bran at the beginning of Bran II. I may be chasing the wind, here, but Bran’s thoughts made me curious.

He thought Jon was angry at him. Jon seemed to be angry at everyone these days. (AGOT 8 Bran II)

During Jon and Benjen’s talk in AGOT 5 Jon I, Benjen pointed out that Jon doesn’t understand the gravity of the Night’s Watch vow because he hasn’t been with a woman yet. Jon’s response was something like “I don’t care about that!” But I wonder if it was a kneejerk response in his anger/drunkenness. I can imagine it might have been something he hadn’t given serious consideration yet. So that could be stressing him and what he’s angry about. But also in that case, he might have spent some of his last fortnight in Winterfell on the prowl for sex, perhaps a non-bastard producing kind or perhaps not. And if that’s the case, maybe he was rejected or had a bad experience, and that could explain his anger too.

It’s just speculation, but I do wonder if there’s a point in the books when Jon says or thinks about how he spent his last days at Winterfell, perhaps revealing some details I didn’t know. It’s something I’ll try to remember to keep an eye out for during the reread, anyway.


Jon did not know what to say. “It wasn’t your fault,” he managed after an awkward silence.

Her eyes found him. They were full of poison. “I need none of your absolution, bastard.”

Regarding Catelyn and Jon, I’m settled on the position that ultimately Catelyn was right to keep Jon at a distance, because of the way Westerosi politics work (Blood Right) and the social norms and stigmas that come out of that. That was a really hard position for me to arrive at, and it took a lot of time, because I sympathize with Jon so strongly and Catelyn is being horrible in this chapter. But it does ultimately appear to be the most level-headed conclusion when I take their setting into consideration and give it due weight. That said, I think Catelyn didn’t have to be quite as mean or negligent toward Jon as I’m led to believe she was by the little bits of information the story gives me about Jon and Catelyn’s dynamic.

That said, I think Catelyn’s behavior in this chapter is probably an extreme case, considering her emotional state. So I wouldn’t want to make the mistake of assuming this is how she treated Jon in general. This seems like Catelyn finally giving voice to her darkest feelings about Jon, suggesting to me that she has mostly been silent to Jon, instead directing her dislike of him toward Ned, like I see her doing at the feast and in the bedroom.

Benjen Stark gave Jon a long look. “Don’t you usually eat at table with your brothers?”

“Most times,” Jon answered in a flat voice. “But tonight Lady Stark thought it might give insult to the royal family to seat a bastard among them.” (AGOT 5 Jon I)

I can also imagine that, in situations where Catelyn compels Ned to exclude Jon, or otherwise to impose a cost of bastardy upon him, Ned might tell or suggest to Jon that the decision comes from Catelyn, thereby protecting his relationship with Jon by directing Jon’s resentment away from himself. It doesn’t seem very Ned-like in that Ned tends to absorb costs on behalf of other people, but it does seem Ned-like in that it’s honest, and it directs the costs to the person responsible for it.

Then again, Ned might consider himself responsible for Catelyn’s dislike of Jon, too. So who really knows how their family dynamic works. I’m just pointing out that there’s a lot of room for complexity and sympathy all around, and it isn’t an easy situation to judge without the finer details.

I think the main focus of the situation is the stigma, rather than the characters or their plights. The stigma against bastards is what’s being premiered here. The story challenges the reader to look at all perspectives closely before judging people. Then after I find the sympathetic case for Catelyn’s position, that properly orients my attention to the stigma itself. I can ask why it’s so deeply rooted in people, where it comes from, what function it’s serving to hold the society together, and compare all of that to the costs suffered by bastards like Jon, to see if the benefits are worth the costs, or challenge myself to consider a change to their society that would not result in even greater catastrophe of one kind or another. And that’s no trivial thing to do, when I take the challenge seriously.

He was at the door when she called out to him. “Jon,” she said. He should have kept going, but she had never called him by his name before. He turned to find her looking at his face, as if she were seeing it for the first time.

“Yes?” he said.

“It should have been you,” she told him. Then she turned back to Bran and began to weep, her whole body shaking with the sobs. Jon had never seen her cry before.

A question that often comes up regarding Jon and Catelyn is whether it’s fair to use the word abuse to describe Catelyn’s treatment of Jon. I think this particular instance is certainly an abusive use of language and emotions and power, even, because Catelyn threatens to deprive Jon of a good-bye with Bran. I can imagine Catelyn has intentionally driven wedges between Jon and her children for as long as Jon has been alive. In my world, I would call that abuse.

But in their world, I don’t think it’s fair to call it abuse. As crappy as it is, their world exists such that bastards are a very serious threat to, well, everyone. They’re a threat to trueborns, the mother, the whole family, their allies who depend on them, the lesser houses who depend on them, the smallfolk who depend on them for defense and stability, and the realm who depends on the stability of that region of the kingdom. One glance at Westerosi history reveals half a dozen horrible wars, atrocities, feuds and destroyed Houses that never would have happened if somebody somewhere on the timeline hadn’t made a bastard, legitimized one, or failed to adhere to the stigma against bastards strongly enough.

The same situations are brewing in present day characters. According to Roose Bolton, Ramsay will kill any son that Roose gets on Walda Frey. To compel Walda to welcome Ramsay into her home to live side-by-side with her own children would be something between foolish and malevolent.

The nameday gifts that Robert Baratheon sent to his bastard Edric Storm no doubt nurtured Edric’s characteristic pride.

“Yes, good morrow, my lord,” Edric echoed. The boy could be fierce and proud, but the maesters and castellans and masters-at-arms who’d raised him had schooled him well in courtesy. (ASOS 10 Davos II)

Edric Storm’s pride may as well be a Chekhov’s gun hung upon the wall, warning of a bloody claim dispute between various Baratheons at some point in the future.

A Targaryen could be forgiven for losing count of how many Blackfyre rebellions needed thwarting because of one asshole king who decided to legitimize his bastards with his dying breath. No doubt the great bastard liberation felt more liberating for Aegon IV Targaryen’s bastards than it did for anybody else’s bastards, or for the hundreds of thousands of people who died in the wars that followed for five generations because of it.

So was Catelyn mean to keep Jon at a distance from her family? Kind of. Was she wrong to do it? No.

If I may momentarily alleviate Jon of the victimhood that we tend to be so eager to bestow upon him, I will point out that Jon grew up in a castle with a family who mostly loves him. As cruddy as it is to be a bastard, ultimately Jon has more to be thankful for than almost every other boy in the world. But sshh, we aren’t supposed to notice that until we’re older. 


Wary but excited, Arya checked the hall. “Nymeria, here. Guard.” She left the wolf out there to warn of intruders and closed the door.

A direwolf understanding language again! The fact that it keeps happening is what reveals the story’s guilt. George R.R. Martin is definitely teasing us with suggestions of magic in the direwolves. They have all the characteristics we expect from a fantasy beast — rare, exotic, large — except for the magic abilities which are withheld except as allusions and suggestions. 

I think their magic abilities are:

  1. They can understand what people are saying, either as language or as intended meaning. (Summer squirms when Theon tries to kill him.)
  2. They can sense where the other direwolves are and where they’re going. (Nymeria “smells” Ghost coming to Arya’s bedroom.)
  3. They can sense where the other Starks are and where they’re going. (Nymeria meets Arya after needlework.)
  4. They can sense which characters are going to be future trouble for the Starks. (Ghost bares teeth at Tyrion.)
  5. They can sense which decisions are going to be future trouble for the Starks. (Summer howling when Bran climbs.)

AGOT 8 Bran II

This chapter leaves a hell of an impression. It’s my favorite chapter so far in the reread. The story spends the whole chapter making me fall in love with Bran, having him thinking about his hopes and hobbies and future, and then it just kills him, seemingly. What a jaw dropper.

“Lord Eddard has never taken any interest in anything that happened south of the Neck,” the woman said. “Never. I tell you, he means to move against us. Why else would he leave the seat of his power?”

“A hundred reasons. Duty. Honor. He yearns to write his name large across the book of history, to get away from his wife, or both. Perhaps he just wants to be warm for once in his life.”

Their conversation has so much subtext. It makes it really challenging. I love it. I notice GRRM does this with other overheard convos too like Varys and Illyrio.

It’s funny how Jaime starts out correct and then gets progressively more wrong as he keeps talking. It gives me the impression that he cares less about the conversation the longer it goes on. Then of course he admits that a little later.

“All this talk is getting very tiresome, sister,” the man said. “Come here and be quiet.”

Cersei’s comment is an interesting mix of exactly right and profoundly wrong. She’s right that Ned has no interest in what happens in the south, but wrong that he never has interest, because he played a major role in Robert’s Rebellion. So she’s on point as it concerns her now, but missing the obvious too.

With her other comment, Cersei is kind of right that Ned means to move against the Lannisters, but not quite right because what Ned really means to do is to move against Jon Arryn’s murderers, whoever they happen to be, pending investigation. So Cersei’s comment is predicated on Lannister guilt, but guilt for the bastardy rather than the murder, which is something an investigation into Jon Arryn’s murder might reveal. So again it’s a cool mix of right and wrong, this time right meaning accurate enough for Cersei’s concerns (watch out, Lannisters!) and wrong meaning morally unacceptable (mothering bastards+incest).


“Let Lady Arryn grow as bold as she likes. Whatever she knows, whatever she thinks she knows, she has no proof.” He paused a moment. “Or does she?”

“Do you think the king will require proof?” the woman said. “I tell you, he loves me not.”

“And whose fault is that, sweet sister?”

Cersei dodges the question.


“Lord Eddard has never taken any interest in anything that happened south of the Neck,”

This part takes on a funny new meaning when Cersei fails to seduce Ned in the godswood of the red keep.


Somewhere off in the distance, a wolf was howling. Crows circled the broken tower, waiting for corn.

The direwolves are clearly prophetic. I’ll write about that in a different essay.

The last line of the chapter is brilliant. It gives me a strong sense that, with this story, the world is treated as superordinate to the characters.

What I care about at this moment is Bran, not the tower or the crows or the corn. I want to know if this lovable boy is going to be alright, if some bird or miracle or character or deus ex machina is going to swoop in at the last moment and save him from certain death. The only thing remaining in the scene that could do it is the crows. The idea that the crows are going to save Bran is a silly one, but it’s one my mind goes to because I’m emotionally invested in Bran, and my mind will reach for anything that could save him.

So what does the author do? He focuses on the crows, and their indifference to the falling Bran. All they care about is the corn.

But it goes deeper than that, because of the POV style. It isn’t just the author showing the indifferent crows to the reader. These are Bran’s thoughts and perceptions. Bran’s last thoughts as he falls to his death are a childlike concern for the crows and what they want. He was looking forward to feeding the crows out of his hand, and the first thing that occurs to him as he falls is that he won’t get to do that. It’s heartbreaking.

His loving and innocent nature shines in contrast to the profound tragedy of his situation, casting his love and innocence in a naive and negative light. It’s wrong and ugly, but so is life sometimes, and so is their world, and I love this story and this author for having the guts to portray it unflinchingly, and take my breath away. 


Created Jun 7, 2021

AGOT 7 Arya I

Arya is one of my favorite characters, but surprisingly, I find myself sympathizing with Sansa as much or more than Arya this time around. Arya blames Sansa for attracting the attention of Septa Mordane.
It was just like Sansa to go and attract the septa’s attention.
But in truth it was Arya who attracted her attention by being loud.
“He’s our brother,” Arya said, much too loudly. Her voice cut through the afternoon quiet of the tower room.
Septa Mordane raised her eyes.
Sansa also does a good job of accomodating everybody in the scene. With Beth, she demonstrates honesty and an ability to criticize people with kindness.
“Beth, you shouldn’t make up stories,” Sansa corrected the younger girl, gently stroking her hair to take the harshness out of her words.
She invites her sister to join in the conversation, demonstrating an awareness of Arya’s needs.
“What did you think of Prince Joff, sister? He’s very gallant, don’t you think?”
I’m seeing how my first impressions of Arya were skewed by my own tendency to sympathize with rebels. I think most of it comes from Martin knowing that his audience tends to sympathize more with characters who buck convention. I think it’s partly a western culture thing and partly a young person thing, because young people everywhere rebel, first against their parents and then society. And the audience for the fantasy genre is predominantly young adults.
Sansa sighed as she stitched. “Poor Jon,” she said. “He gets jealous because he’s a bastard.”
Even Sansa’s comment about Jon turns out to be true after a closer look at Jon’s chapter. Jon is dripping with jealousy and resentment about being a bastard. He assumes the worst of Myrcella, for example, thinking she’s insipid, and that Robb is stupid not to notice it. But I think that’s juxtaposed with what I think might be subtle clues of Myrcella’s awareness in this Arya chapter.
“What are you talking about, children?”
“Our half brother,” Sansa corrected, soft and precise. She smiled for the septa. “Arya and I were remarking on how pleased we were to have the princess with us today,” she said.
Septa Mordane nodded. “Indeed. A great honor for us all.” Princess Myrcella smiled uncertainly at the compliment.
Myrcella’s uncertainty might indicate that she recognizes that Sansa is lying, because Sansa’s explanation doesn’t fit with the talk of a brother.


It wasn’t fair. Sansa had everything. Sansa was two years older

I think these 2 lines might show that Arya is being too hard on herself.

“I could do just as good as Bran,” she said. “He’s only seven. I’m nine.”

It doesn’t seem to occur to Arya that maybe a lot of the reason Sansa is better than her at most things is because Sansa is 2 years older, the same reason Arya is better than Bran at most things.


Arya glared at her. “I have to go shoe a horse,” she said sweetly, taking a brief satisfaction in the shock on the septa’s face.

Superb! The Septa’s blacksmith comment was really uncalled for. Adults don’t realize how much of their gossip kids can overhear, how well kids are able to understand it, and how big of an effect it can have on them. It reminds me that I wasn’t completely off base with my first impression of Arya. She is still very sympathetic, and she’s in the annoying position of having unconventional talents and interests for a girl.


“The Lannisters are proud,” Jon observed. “You’d think the royal sigil would be sufficient, but no. He makes his mother’s House equal in honor to the king’s.”

Jon being super observant again.


I thought this was a peculiar little thing at the end of the chapter.

“Nothing is fair,” Jon said. He messed up her hair again and walked away from her, Ghost moving silently beside him. Nymeria started to follow too, then stopped and came back when she saw that Arya was not coming.

Reluctantly she turned in the other direction.

Nymeria started to follow Jon and Ghost, and then turned back to reluctant Arya. I’m not sure what it means, if anything, but I could see it being a number of things. Maybe it just shows that Arya wants to stay with Jon, and so Nymeria is acting out Arya’s subconscious desire. Maybe it shows that Nymeria is drawn to follow Ghost, and so Ghost is the natural leader of the pack. I like the first one the best. It matches with something that happened when Arya first found Jon.

Nymeria stalked closer on wary feet. Ghost, already larger than his litter mates, smelled her, gave her ear a careful nip, and settled back down.

Ghost nipped at Nymeria’s ear. It’s the wolf version of Jon messing up Arya’s hair all the time.

Jon grinned, reached over, and messed up her hair. Arya flushed.


Here was something funny from the practice yard.

“I am a prince. And I grow tired of swatting at Starks with a play sword.” “You got more swats than you gave, Joff,” Robb said.

Joffrey got embarrassed by Robb during their first sword fight, so when Rodrik calls upon Robb and Joffrey for round two, Joffrey acts like he’s too cool to play with practice swords. It’s a transparent excuse because Joffrey has used practice swords once already. Joff suggests live steel, knowing full well that it won’t be allowed, which allows him to evade a second round of embarassment and bruises. His retinue plays along with the ploy.

Some of the Lannister men laughed.

But what does Sandor do?

“This is your prince. Who are you to tell him he may not have an edge on his sword, ser?”

Sandor seems to come to Joffrey’s aid too, pressuring Rodrik to allow live steel as Joffrey requested. But in light of Joffrey’s treatment of Sandor that we see later on…

“And you, dog, away with you, you’re scaring my betrothed.” The Hound, ever faithful, bowed and slid away quietly through the press. (AGOT Sansa II)

It recontextualizes Sandor’s behavior at the practice yard. Sandor was using the plausible deniability that Joffrey’s bluff affords him to rob Joffrey of his flimsy excuse, maybe in the hopes of earning Joffrey the beating he desperately needs.

“Are you training women here?”

Sandor goes hard into the paint, playing on the testosterone of the guys involved. He’s determined to get Joffrey’s ass kicked.

“I killed a man at twelve. You can be sure it was not with a blunt sword.”

I fucking lost it.

Maybe it’s a piece of Sandor’s characterization in some ways. He plays the role of dumb violent brute, but beneath the surface he has his emotions under more control than even Ser Rodrick, who gets red-faced at the challenge to his masculinity. But I can see how the dumbness of the role is necessary in order for Sandor to create and protect the plausibility of his denial, to curb against the risk that Joffrey or the Lannisters will one day notice a pattern in his behavior of propelling Joffrey into precarious situations, in stark contradiction with his vow to protect him.

AGOT 6 Catelyn II

I thought the Myrish lens situation was pretty cool.

“I asked the same question,” Maester Luwin said. “Clearly there was more to this than the seeming.”

Under the heavy weight of her furs, Catelyn shivered. “A lens is an instrument to help us see.”

Maester Luwin receives a mysterious box that has a lens inside. It’s a weird thing to receive and a weird way to receive it, so the weirdness clues him in that there’s probably more to the gift than it seems. Catelyn shivers. From what I know of Catelyn so far, she has an affinity for signs.

a direwolf dead in the snow, a broken antler in its throat. Dread coiled within her like a snake, but she forced herself to smile at this man she loved, this man who put no faith in signs. (AGOT Catelyn I)

“The king is a stranger to you.” Catelyn remembered the direwolf dead in the snow, the broken antler lodged deep in her throat. She had to make him see. (AGOT Catelyn II)

At this point in the story I have seen that Catelyn is clever, too.

“Until this morning, no living man had ever seen a direwolf either,” Catelyn reminded him.

“I ought to know better than to argue with a Tully,” (AGOT Catelyn I)

The Starks were made for the cold, he would tell her, and she would laugh and tell him in that case they had certainly built their castle in the wrong place. (AGOT Catelyn II)

Catelyn offers what seems like a silly interpretation of the gift. It’s almost childlike.

“A lens is an instrument to help us see.”

Catelyn could feel dread stirring inside her once again. “What is it that they would have us see more clearly?”

But I can see how Catelyn’s interpretation would have been successful in leading her to find the hidden message, by causing her to look at the gift and box more closely.

“The very thing I asked myself.” Maester Luwin drew a tightly rolled paper out of his sleeve. “I found the true message concealed within a false bottom when I dismantled the box the lens had come in, but it is not for my eyes.”

Luwin thought of the same symbolism that Catelyn did, and found the hidden message. So it’s a result that stands in judgement of my initial feelings that Catelyn is being silly and childlike.

Ned frowned. He had little patience for this sort of thing, Catelyn knew. “A lens,” he said. “What has that to do with me?”

The story is illustrating a personality difference between characters regarding their affinity for signs, symbols, metaphors and puzzles. In this instance, that affinity serves Catelyn and Luwin well, and Ned is left looking like a dolt. But there are also times when characters’ affinity for signs gets them into trouble, and/or the Neds of the story are rewarded for paying signs no heed.

This is also an example of one of those times.

Catelyn’s thoughts show me that her mind is preoccupied with the symbolism of the dead direwolf with an antler in her throat. That causes her to compel Ned to travel south, for fear that refusing Robert’s offer will make an enemy of him and sow the seeds of a future conflict between the houses that the stag and the wolf represent.

Catelyn thinks she knows what the dead direwolf sign means, and that she can divert it from coming true. But Catelyn’s attempt to prevent the sign from coming true is what caused it to come true, by convincing Ned to go south.

We don’t know yet that going south will end badly for the Starks, so that realization is only visible in retrospect or upon a reread, but I think it shows me something important about the role of signs in the story. Even though the characters can and do try to affect the outcomes of signs, it isn’t possible for the characters to succeed in doing so. Their attempts to intervene with the sign will always be somewhere between useless and counter-productive.

Thematically, maybe signs are there to torment the characters who are arrogant enough to try to manipulate the strings of fate from the top down, perhaps as opposed to humbly focusing on one’s own life and small domain of agency to improve his fate from the bottom up.

AGOT 5 Jon I

Jon wants to join the Night’s Watch, but Benjen thinks he’s too young. So Jon tries to argue his case by referencing the story of Daeron Targaryen.

“Daeron Targaryen was only fourteen when he conquered Dorne,” Jon said. The Young Dragon was one of his heroes.

“A conquest that lasted a summer,” his uncle pointed out. “Your Boy King lost ten thousand men taking the place, and another fifty trying to hold it. Someone should have told him that war isn’t a game.” He took another sip of wine. “Also,” he said, wiping his mouth, “Daeron Targaryen was only eighteen when he died. Or have you forgotten that part?”

“I forget nothing,” Jon boasted.

Jon points out that Daeron was only 14 years old when he conquered Dorne. His conquest of Dorne is the most memorable thing about him, so that’s what people remember the most. But Benjen points out that Jon hasn’t considered this part of Daeron’s story in full context. 60,000 people died for Daeron’s conquest: From The World of Ice and Fire I can find that 10,000 died taking it and 50,000 over the next 3 years trying to keep it.

Some of those people have famous names like Lyonel Tyrell and Olyvar Oakheart, but no doubt most of them were common knights and militia.

Benjen brings their lives back into the equation as if they really matter, so I think it has the subtle effect of signaling to me that this isn’t a story where I can neglect to calculate the suffering of minor or unnamed characters.

Jon gets belligerent when his oversights are pointed out to him. I could easily see him try to make excuses for Daeron instead.

I notice an ironic duality happening with Daeron’s nickname, The Young Dragon. The word young suggests, at least on the surface, that his deeds are especially impressive because of his young age. That’s certainly Jon’s interpretation of Daeron’s story and the interpretation I tend to come away with too when the name is accompanied by the most notable part of Daeron’s story, his conquest of Dorne. But once I have the full story of the conquest I can see another more tragic meaning in the nickname, because Daeron died at a young age, and the conquest of Dorne was the big mistake that led to it. So the nickname echos through the ages as a reminder that Daeron’s foolishness is why Daeron didn’t live long enough to grow into an older dragon and earn a more mature nickname.

This kind of ironic duality is something I notice in many other nicknames too. Maybe it highlights that reputations are hard to shake, and that they’re just as often misleading as they are useful shortcuts.

To judge by the chapters so far, Tyrion’s nickname seems to have some irony too. We first hear about “The Imp” from Ned, who doesn’t spare any thoughts of Tyrion good or bad, so the nickname itself is allowed to do the lifting from then until now.

The tall boy beside him could only be the crown prince, and that stunted little man behind them was surely the Imp, Tyrion Lannister.

Yet the huge man at the head of the column, flanked by two knights in the snow-white cloaks of the Kingsguard, seemed almost a stranger to Ned . . . (AGOT Eddard I)

For me, it makes me think Tyrion will be annoying, devious, evil or at least provocative. Then I meet him in Jon I and he’s one of the most polite and caring people I’ve seen so far. He handles Jon’s clumsiness and insecurities with a lot of tact. And to give advice is an inherently caring thing to do. At least, this advice seems to be.

Robert Baratheon’s reputation and nickname, demon of the Trident, also has elements of irony and unreliability. The story makes his explicit and shows the mismatch between expectation and reality all at once, and often.

In those days, the smell of leather and blood had clung to him like perfume.

Now it was perfume that clung to him like perfume, and he had a girth to match his height. (AGOT Eddard I)

The king was a great disappointment to Jon. His father had talked of him often: the peerless Robert Baratheon, demon of the Trident, the fiercest warrior of the realm, a giant among princes. Jon saw only a fat man, red-faced under his beard, sweating through his silks. He walked like a man half in his cups. (AGOT Jon I)

Golden Collars P2 & Bias Disconfirmation

This is a contination of an analysis of the chapter AGOT Daenerys I.

Link to Part 1

Insane

In Part 1, Golden Collars & Confirmation Bias, I found an interpretation of AGOT Daenerys I that runs almost perfectly contrary to my initial interpretation of the chapter. (Read Part 1 before reading Part 2.) Dany being too afraid to see things clearly is quite opposite to Dany being discerning. Let’s quickly review what happened in Part 1.

First, the story shaped my perceptions to make me skeptical. Second, my skepticism prevented me from noticing Dany’s logical mishap. Third, the story drew my attention to my failure to notice that, by allowing my skeptical mind to fill in Dany’s meaning for her.

His collar, she noted, was ordinary bronze.

It shows me that the story isn’t merely telling me what’s happening, it’s controlling the way I perceive it. Now the story is pointing at me, and challenging me to challenge my initial interpretation of Daenerys in the same way. If Dany’s judgement is clouded, and I didn’t notice it, then is my judgement of Dany clouded too?

This is the point of maximum abstraction in the analysis, so it’s the point at which formulating useful questions is the most difficult. I want to keep going with it, using what I’ve found to interrogate the story, but where do I go from here?

As a general rule, the nature of the character’s unreliability will direct me. Dany’s judgement is clouded by her fear about her marriage to Drogo, so the marriage and Dany’s attitude toward it are the topics I should center my next questions around.

Supposing that Dany’s thoughts and feelings about the wedding are backwards, as the metatext seems to hint, and supposing that there are more things hidden in the chapter to support that idea, what might those things be? I want to take up the story’s challenge and make a concerted effort to disconfirm my initial thoughts and feelings about Dany.

As demonstrated by Dany’s logical mishap with the golden collar, it’s always harder to see things that disconfirm my beliefs than it is to see things that confirm it, so I can expect that the investigation going foward will feel inherently distasteful and not worthwhile.

Now I’ll try to come up with a line of inquiry that is deliberately backwards to my Dany bias.

Is Dany being ungrateful for the marriage?

Since I’ve already read the chapter once, I have a general idea of the things in it, so I can formulate some predictions about what I might find.

Something to be grateful for is a gift. I remember that there were some gifts in the chapter. What were they? And how many of them can I remember? I remember a collar and a dress. I can remember 2 gifts. So maybe some things I’ll find when I reread the chapter with a keen eye for gifts and for Dany’s ingratitude for the marriage are:

  • There are more gifts than I realized before.
  • The gifts are more valuable than I realized before.

Beginner

Now I have reread the chapter, found all of Dany’s gifts, and the results of the investigation can be compared to those two predictions above.

  • Deep plum silk gown
  • Gold as well
  • Jewels of all sorts
  • Wisps that Magister Illyrio had sent up
  • Gilded sandals
  • Tiara in her hair
  • Golden bracelets crusted with amethysts
  • Collar, a heavy golden torc emblazoned with ancient Valyrian glyphs

The predictions were right. There are many more gifts than I remembered, and they’re more valuable than I remembered too. How in the world did I forget a tiara?

The results of this first inquiry are evidence of the predictive power of this backwards interpretation of Dany. The degree to which the interpretation is useful for predicting things in the story that I didn’t notice before is the degree to which it becomes reasonable to say it is correct. So far it’s off to a great start, but I’m not convinced yet that there’s anything particularly correct about it. I need more proof of its predictive power.

Intermediate

Is Dany being ungrateful for the marriage?

Now I return to my backwards interpretation to try to formulate another useful line of inquiry that might disconfirm my Dany bias.

Something to be grateful for is help. I remember that Dany received some help in this chapter from slaves. What kind of help can I remember Dany receiving? And how many different slaves helped her that I can remember? I remember the chattering girl who put the golden collar on her neck, and another woman was with her too. I remember 2 slaves who helped Dany. So maybe some things I’ll find when I reread the chapter with a keen eye for slaves helping Dany and for Dany’s ingratitude for the marriage are:

  • There are more slaves than I realized before.
  • More of the slaves help Dany than I realized before.

Now I have scoured the chapter again, found all the slaves, and here are the results.

  • 19 slaves in total
  • 2 servants: old woman and chattering girl
  • 2 slaves carrying lanterns ahead of the palanquin
  • 12 slaves carrying the palanquin
  • 1 Unsullied with bronze Dothraki skin
  • 1 slave offered a hand to help Daenerys out
  • 1 eunuch singer

It looks like both predictions were right again. There are far more slaves than I realized, and all but one of them are doing something for Dany.

They filled her bath with hot water from the kitchen, scented it with fragrant oils, undressed her, helped her into the tub, washed and combed her hair, scrubbed her back and feet, helped her out of the tub, toweled her dry, brushed her hair, perfumed her, dressed her in silk and jewelry, carried lanterns, carried her palanquin, helped her out of the palanquin, and announced her arrival.

As an added bonus, I even found a moment when the chattering slave girl directly tells Dany that she’s lucky.

The girl scrubbed her back and her feet and told her how lucky she was.

In Part 1 I supposed that the girl was entirely lying to Dany at the behest of Illyrio, in order to warm Dany up to the marriage. So maybe what this reveals is that the girl was only partially lying, and that this line is an authentic part of her comments that also happens to serve her and Illyrio’s purposes.

The results of this second inquiry are more evidence of the predictive power of this backwards interpretation of Dany. So far, it’s proving to be less backwards than it first seemed.

Expert

Is Dany being ungrateful for the marriage?

I return to my backwards interpretation once again to try to formulate another useful line of inquiry that might disconfirm my Dany bias. If Dany is really being ungrateful for the marriage, maybe something I might expect to be able to find in the chapter is that Viserys, who arranged the marriage and compels Dany to cooperate with it, is kind of right about some things.

I scan the chapter one last time, this time with greater familiarity and a keener sympathy for Viserys’s point of view.

“Be grateful it is only Drogo. In time you may even learn to like him. Now dry your eyes. Illyrio is bringing him over, and he will not see you crying.”

This backwards interpretation of Dany is proving to be quite good at predicting things in the story that I didn’t notice were there.


Hey! If you made it to the end, thanks for reading and for any thoughts you want to share. I was trying to give a small but comprehensive demonstration in one chapter of what seems to me to be the most elusive way that the story can and is meant to be engaged with. Maybe somebody will find these essays useful. Thanks again and valar morghulis!


Acclaim

“This is wonderful. I get so tired of hearing how the Dothraki are just racist tropes or stereotypes or that these storylines are just throwaway chapters to shuttle Danny around as if she (and they) were merely passive character carve-outs when they were one of my favorite part of the books.”

“I think you’ve really struck on something here regarding Danys gifts and our biased interpretations towards them / her position in this chapter.”


AGOT 4 Eddard I

I was ruminating about the mood of the chapter and the structure of it as a whole. I get profoundly sad and foreboding undertones, but I couldn’t decide what purpose it was serving other than foreshadowing perhaps Ned’s death, the awakening of the Stark ancestors when winter comes, or whatever else might be foreshadowed in there. But I think the contrast between Robert and Ned’s attitudes is where a lot of the sadness comes from too.

They’re on different wavelengths with different priorities. They’ve grown apart. Robert wants to reignite their bond by ruling together in King’s Landing. Maybe it shows that Robert never truly understood Ned even when their bond was strong, because Ned’s priorities are much different and Robert isn’t doing a great job of tailoring his persuasion to Ned. He’s going on about fireplums and naked girls when maybe a better way to persuade Ned would be to focus on the call to duty and why he’s needed so desperately in King’s Landing, and why that’s a greater service to the realm than staying at Winterfell. But to Robert’s credit he did make some points like that too.

I think it is a little crappy of Robert to neglect to hide the fact that Lyanna is at the forefront of his mind. He is married after all and has been for a long time, and Cersei is right here, and her request is not unreasonable, so I think her desires should come before Robert’s urge to visit Lyanna’s tomb, in a healthy relationship.

Ned loves Robert for it. But the way Cersei’s words are delivered through Ned’s thoughts rather than through Cersei’s dialogue, I thought it was curious. The effect of it is that it gives me the impression that Ned is at least mildly disapproving of Cersei’s objections. There isn’t an ounce of direct disapproval in Ned’s thoughts there about Cersei, but delivering them to the reader this way rather than through Cersei’s dialogue seems to me like a hint of Ned’s disapproval.

Considering that Cersei has been cuckolding Robert for over a decade already, I imagine Cersei’s objection to Robert’s insistence to visit Lyanna’s tomb has more to do with Cersei protecting her ego than her heart. And then it seems likely that Cersei’s objection itself was made for the purpose of controlling the perceptions of the non-Robert characters in the scene, by creating a situation in which Robert seems like a jerk. And then I can imagine that Cersei has done this kind of thing before, that Robert has identified it, and maybe what Robert is doing when he insists upon visiting Lyanna is he’s retaliating against Cersei for 14 years of manipulation like this.

I think most of the reason for Cersei’s objection to it is to make Robert look like a jerk to everyone else and make herself look like a victim, when in reality she’s not very hurt by it anymore because she’s 3 bastards deep into cucking him. When I reference Cersei’s reasonings with that in mind, they do seem a bit theatrical and exaggerated. Does anybody believe Cersei is genuinely concerned for the tired army, or that Cersei or her family are truly tired from their ride in the double-decker wheelhouse? When Jaime comes over to grab her hand it really drives home the cucking point in retrospect. The Lannisters deserve an applause for that performance

Golden Collars & Confirmation Bias

This is a short analysis of AGOT 3 Daenerys I. I divided it by difficulty level because I’m a bloody weirdo or something. I’m not answering any questions. Enjoy!

Beginner

The girl scrubbed her back and her feet and told her how lucky she was. “Drogo is so rich that even his slaves wear golden collars. A hundred thousand men ride in his khalasar, and his palace in Vaes Dothrak has two hundred rooms and doors of solid silver.” There was more like that, so much more, what a handsome man the khal was (…)

This is the first time the golden collars come up. The servant girl is trying to reassure Dany that her marriage to Drogo will be splendid, by giving Dany an example of Drogo’s absurd wealth. But I want to draw attention to the ways the rest of the chapter guides (and misguides) the reader.

At this point in the chapter, Dany has made the observation that Illyrio’s servants are not really servants, but slaves.

There was no slavery in the free city of Pentos. Nonetheless, they were slaves.

The reason they’re called servants is because Pentos has a rule that no slavery is allowed in the city. So referring to them as servants allows the likes of Illyrio and Drogo to evade the rule, and it shows me that the term “free city of Pentos” is at least a little dishonest. For the reader, this creates a sense of mistrust, and it puts me in a skeptical frame of mind like Daenerys.

Intermediate

Early in the chapter, Dany’s thoughts revealed her mistrust of Magister Illyrio and his intentions.

“What does he want from us?” (…) Dany was thirteen, old enough to know that such gifts seldom come without their price, here in the free city of Pentos.

Since the servant girl belongs to Illyrio, we might be skeptical that the girl’s praise of Khal Drogo is entirely genuine or truthful. Upon consideration, it seems likely that the girl has been instructed by Illyrio to give praise to Drogo in Dany’s hearing, in order to help Illyrio and Viserys gain Dany’s cooperation with the marriage. For the reader, it creates more mistrust and further sharpens my skeptical eye.

Further along in the chapter, Dany receives her own collar, and it’s gold just like the servant girl said it would be.

Last of all came the collar, a heavy golden torc emblazoned with ancient Valyrian glyphs. (…) *A princess*, she thought, but she remembered what the girl had said, how Khal Drogo was so rich even his slaves wore golden collars. She felt a sudden chill, and gooseflesh pimpled her bare arms.

That should lend credibility to the servant girl’s point, because her point was that Dany’s marriage to Drogo will be great. So Dany’s golden collar evidences the truth of that. But since Dany and the reader occupy a skeptical frame of mind, the effect is quite the opposite. Dany interprets her golden collar as an indication that she’ll be treated in her marriage like a slave, and that therefore the marriage will be as terrible as she fears.

Expert

The palanquin slowed and stopped. The curtains were thrown back, and a slave offered a hand to help Daenerys out. His collar, she noted, was ordinary bronze.

Pages later, Dany steps out of the palanquin and notices that the collar on Khal Drogo’s slave is bronze rather than gold. Using Dany’s own reasoning, this should *disconfirm* Dany’s fear that her marriage to Drogo will be terrible, because her golden collar doesn’t match the collars of the slaves after all.

There are two ways to interpret this line.

His collar, she noted, was ordinary bronze.

What do you think is of note to Dany? Is she thinking that her fears are disconfirmed because the collars don’t match, or is she thinking that her fears are confirmed because the girl was lying to her?

The interpretation the reader will tend to come away with is that this further confirms Dany’s fear. But notice that Dany’s thoughts don’t explicitly reveal the answer one way or another. The only role Dany played in the interpretation was to take note of the bronze collar. The result is that the story reveals to the reader that he placed the confirmed fear interpretation into the story himself, and that his perception of this line was expertly controlled by the author and shaped by the skepticism in Dany’s interpretations all along. It’s phenomenal. This is the kind of stuff ASOIAF does that blows my hair back.

When I look back on the whole sequence, I can see that Dany’s skeptical frame of mind has made it impossible for her to see an interpretation of the collars that disconfirms her fear. It shows me that Dany’s fear about the marriage, though understandable, is preventing her from thinking clearly.

Then I notice that Dany’s fear misled me too, because I was on board with her interpretations every step of the way. In its third chapter, ASOIAF shows me that it’s a kind of story that is happy to leave me behind whenever I don’t stop to think.

Insane

The part in bold is a new interpretation of the story that was unlocked by the investigation, and that I have never seen before. Metatextually, it raises one big question: What is the author’s purpose in hiding this part of the interpretation? Why wouldn’t he want me to notice on my first read-through that Dany’s fear about the wedding is making her irrational?

Feeling confident, I went to the re-read audience to ask them to describe Dany in this chapter using only one word. Their answers:

  • Brave
  • Abused
  • Dutiful
  • Observant/Questioning
  • Discerning
  • Discerning seconded

The chapter is written in such a way that the reader is left with a strong impression that Daenerys is discerning. This has been my interpretation as well for the few years that I’ve been engrossed in this story. But here I’ve discovered a new interpretation that runs completely contrary to the first one. Dany being too afraid to see things clearly is quite opposite to Dany being discerning.

It’s a small discovery without much consequence, but it stands so firmly in text, subtext and metatext that the juxtaposition between the two conflicting interpretations brings *all* of the initial one into question.

This kind of contrast is one I’ve seen referred to as a metatextual signpost, so I’ll borrow the term too. It’s as if the story has sprouted giant cartoon hands and is pointing to itself, alarms blaring, in a desperate attempt to get my attention, to get me to pry this inquiry wide open, because it may be a point of entry into something bigger.

Part 2: Golden Collars & Bias Disconfirmation


ACOK 10 Davos I

The burning gods cast a pretty light, wreathed in their robes of shifting flame, red and orange and yellow. Septon Barre had once told Davos how they’d been carved from the masts of the ships that had carried the first Targaryens from Valyria. Over the centuries, they had been painted and repainted, gilded, silvered, jeweled. “Their beauty will make them more pleasing to R’hllor,” Melisandre said when she told Stannis to pull them down and drag them out the castle gates.

The Maiden lay athwart the Warrior, her arms widespread as if to embrace him. The Mother seemed almost to shudder as the flames came licking up her face. A longsword had been thrust through her heart, and its leather grip was alive with flame. The Father was on the bottom, the first to fall. Davos watched the hand of the Stranger writhe and curl as the fingers blackened and fell away one by one, reduced to so much glowing charcoal. Nearby, Lord Celtigar coughed fitfully and covered his wrinkled face with a square of linen embroidered in red crabs. The Myrmen swapped jokes as they enjoyed the warmth of the fire, but young Lord Bar Emmon had turned a splotchy grey, and Lord Velaryon was watching the king rather than the conflagration. (ACOK Davos I)

Do the idols represent Starks? Ned was the first to die, Cat tore her face, Sansa embraces Jon in the end? Cat didn’t have a longsword in her heart though. Maybe Ice killing Ned can satisfy that metaphorically.

Davos would have given much to know what he was thinking, but one such as Velaryon would never confide in him. The Lord of the Tides was of the blood of ancient Valyria, and his House had thrice provided brides for Targaryen princes; Davos Seaworth stank of fish and onions. It was the same with the other lordlings. He could trust none of them, nor would they ever include him in their private councils. They scorned his sons as well. My grandsons will joust with theirs, though, and one day their blood may wed with mine. In time my little black ship will fly as high as Velaryon’s seahorse or Celtigar’s red crabs.

What if Lord Velaryon did want to talk to Davos? Is this just Davos’s insecurity? Who is the “they” who scorned his sons? Are “they” the Lords Velaryon? Or is Davos’s insecurity causing him to attribute all the scorn he has received to all lordly people as if they are conspiring against him?

I take Davos’s thoughts here as true unless a good reason to doubt them appears. But maybe I’ll keep an open mind on the credibility of Davos’s internal thoughts. I haven’t done a lot of that yet with Davos. He’s just so darn authentic.

The king plunged into the fire with his teeth clenched, holding the leather cloak before him to keep off the flames. He went straight to the Mother, grasped the sword with his gloved hand, and wrenched it free of the burning wood with a single hard jerk. Then he was retreating, the sword held high, jade-green flames swirling around cherry-red steel. Guards rushed to beat out the cinders that clung to the king’s clothing.

This is a really funny image to me. The whole thing from Stannis’s fireproof glove to his blazing retreat is comical, and the comedy speaks to the charade of it all. They’re trying to put on a performance of the Azor Ahai and Lightbringer prophecy coming to fruition right before everyone’s eyes. But the only thing that smells of prophecy, magic and foreshadowing to me is the Faith of the Seven’s burning idols.

“For the night is dark and full of terrors,” Selyse and her queen’s men replied. Should I speak the words as well? Davos wondered. Do I owe Stannis that much? Is this fiery god truly his own? His shortened fingers twitched.

I wonder if Davos’s finger twitching is a recurring tell. Like Arya’s lip chewing or Jon’s fist clenching. I’ll keep it in mind.

The gods in the pyre were scarcely recognizable anymore. The head fell off the Smith with a puff of ash and embers.

Just another piece of the Seven stuff to play with. Would the Smith be Gendry maybe?

“As to that, Father,” Dale said, “I mislike these water casks they’ve given me for Wraith. Green pine. The water will spoil on a voyage of any length.”

“I got the same for Lady Marya,” said Allard. “The queen’s men have laid claim to all the seasoned wood.”

I may be overly suspicious but I wonder if people are trying to get Davos’s sons killed, relying on them not knowing that their water will spoil while they’re at sea. Maybe Davos taught them about the water casks, so then having a smuggler for a father could be what saved them here.

“Now do you see my meaning? Be glad that it is just a burnt sword that His Grace pulled from that fire. Too much light can hurt the eyes, my friend, and fire burns.” Salladhor Saan finished the last grape and smacked his lips.

I’m still not sure what Salladhor means, but I think maybe he’s suggesting that Stannis being the real Azor Ahai would necessitate that Stannis thrusts a sword through Queen Selyse’s heart. Considering that Stannis just burned some of his family alive, it doesn’t seem out of the question that he would do that to Selyse too. Selyse is a true believer of this R’hllor shit. Salladhor would know that. So maybe he’s saying that Selyse might even be a willing sacrifice like Nissa Nissa in the legend. Plus everybody knows Stannis is dishonoring Selyse because Melisandre is beautiful and she never leaves Stannis’s side. Maybe Salldhor supposes that Stannis might be happy to be rid of Selyse.

To be clear I’m only trying to find Sal’s meaning. I don’t think it necessarily means that Selyse is Nissa Nissa. But I think maybe Sal has made his own connection between Nissa Nissa and Selyse. In this chapter Stannis spent the night publicly burning his family members alive, so the tension in the people surrounding Stannis might be, who’s next? Would he burn me? How far is this religious fantacism going to go? So maybe Sal has imagined that Stannis might even burn his own wife.

“When I was a lad I found an injured goshawk and nursed her back to health. Proudwing, I named her. She would perch on my shoulder and flutter from room to room after me and take food from my hand, but she would not soar. Time and again I would take her hawking, but she never flew higher than the treetops. Robert called her Weakwing. He owned a gyrfalcon named Thunderclap who never missed her strike. One day our great-uncle Ser Harbert told me to try a different bird. I was making a fool of myself with Proudwing, he said, and he was right.” Stannis Baratheon turned away from the window, and the ghosts who moved upon the southern sea. “The Seven have never brought me so much as a sparrow. It is time I tried another hawk, Davos. A red hawk.”

When Stannis unlearned the value of mercy.

This reminds me of the saying We grow old not by living a number of years, but by sacrificing our ideals.